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( حدثنا سليمان بن شعيب عن أبيه عن محمد عن أبي يوسف عن أبي حنيفة بذلك حدثنا فهد قال ثنا أبو نعيم قال سمعت سفيان يقول في رجل تزوج محرم منه فدخل بها قال لا حد عليه )
( شرح معاني الآثار - أحمد بن محمد بن سلمة / ج 3 / ص 149 / ط دار الكتب العلمية الثالثة 1996 )
also " from sulaiman ibn shu'aib from his father fron muhammed ibn abi yussef from abu hanifah avccording to what fahd from abu na'eem from sufiane said: if a man married a mahram and consumated the marriage (had kitchen with her) there's no "had" no punishment

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Nov 28 06 12:03 AM

ANYONE ??? NO??? COME ON I MEAN YOU ALWAYS GOOD AT SPREADING FILTH ABOUT SHIA SO WHERE ARE YOU WHEN IT COMES TOU YOUR OWN FILTH???????

"Us Per Hargiz Zulm Na Kerna Jis Ka Allah Ka Siwa Koi Na Ho"
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Nov 28 06 12:56 AM

Alright buddy I showed a scan of the Ayat ul shaytans fatwa, now I want to see a original fatwa allowing this, so that you dont alter the words...you see the difference between what the Sunni present and what the Rahfidah present

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 1:18 AM

truemuslim/kidding.gif WHAT I PRESENTED IS FROM YOUR BOOKS AND YOU HAVE THE REF AND THE BOOK NAME SO GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND LOOK IT UP I'M NOT DOING OWT FOR YOU

"Us Per Hargiz Zulm Na Kerna Jis Ka Allah Ka Siwa Koi Na Ho"
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Nov 28 06 1:22 AM

QUOTE (amilcar @ November 28, 2006 01:18 am)
truemuslim/kidding.gif WHAT I PRESENTED IS FROM YOUR BOOKS AND YOU HAVE THE REF AND THE BOOK NAME SO GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND LOOK IT UP I'M NOT DOING OWT FOR YOU

You want to expose Salfis so much why are you telling me to do the work, why dont you show me a scan instead of talking about my arse

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 1:26 AM

SIMLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOT A SCANNER .
AND IF YOU WERE SEEKER OF TRUTH YOU WOULD START LOOKING YOU HAVE THE BOOK NAME AND THE PAGE AND SEE FOR YOUR SELF IF WE ARE LYING THEN JUDGE US

"Us Per Hargiz Zulm Na Kerna Jis Ka Allah Ka Siwa Koi Na Ho"
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Nov 28 06 1:27 AM

QUOTE (amilcar @ November 28, 2006 01:26 am)
SIMLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOT A SCANNER .
AND IF YOU WERE SEEKER OF TRUTH YOU WOULD START LOOKING YOU HAVE THE BOOK NAME AND THE PAGE AND SEE FOR YOUR SELF IF WE ARE LYING THEN JUDGE US

Then dont attempt to prove somthing when you can't...
my arse will remain right here, when you get a scanner tell me

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 2:55 AM

Back at ya'

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 3:06 AM

Cheeky boy...
Is the some sort of Shia inside joke...

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 3:09 AM

WLL IT'S JUST THAT ALL SALFIS ARE IBN TAYMYYA cilantro BOYS AND HE'S PROUD OF THEM, ARE YOU ANNOYED THAT IBN TAYMYYA IS PROUD OF YOU ???YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY

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Nov 28 06 3:18 AM

I hope for your sake you were not Khomeini's cilantro BOY
We know what happens to them


But you should be proud...right?

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 3:30 AM

WELL I'M NOBODY'S cilantro BOY I'M A TAUGH MAN ALHAMDULILLAH BUT I HOPE YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THIS FATWA BY YOUR IMAM ABU HANIFA
( حدثنا سليمان بن شعيب عن أبيه عن محمد عن أبي يوسف عن أبي حنيفة بذلك حدثنا فهد قال ثنا أبو نعيم قال سمعت سفيان يقول في رجل تزوج محرم منه فدخل بها قال لا حد عليه )
( شرح معاني الآثار - أحمد بن محمد بن سلمة / ج 3 / ص 149 / ط دار الكتب العلمية الثالثة 1996 )
also " from sulaiman ibn shu'aib from his father fron muhammed ibn abi yussef from abu hanifah avccording to what fahd from abu na'eem from sufiane said: if a man married a mahram and consumated the marriage (had kitchen with her) there's no "had" no punishment

"Us Per Hargiz Zulm Na Kerna Jis Ka Allah Ka Siwa Koi Na Ho"
(Imam Ali Ibn Abi Tailb A.s)

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Nov 28 06 3:32 AM

Scan....
No?

Abu Haneefah: Adhere to the athar and the tareeqah of the Salaf and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation
[Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32]

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Nov 28 06 12:39 PM

yes , the sunnie's are proud of Ibn taymijeh

Burt he doesnt have to be proud un us.

We didnt do nothing in comparwe to th knowledge of his student Ibnu lqaiem al jawzie.

Give me one Shia scolar that was a good scholar like Ibn taymijeh and was as objective as ibn tajmijeh none none none none


I love Ibn Taymije for the sake of ALLAH and I will defend him fromthe wrong doers the mushriokoen.

Salama ala manie tabhal houda.

"Anyone who believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak with goodness, or otherwise hold his peace." [Saheeh Muslim]
Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 009.
Narated By Aiyub : The Prophet said, "If I were to take a Khalil, I would have taken him (i.e. Abu Bakr) as a Khalil, but the Islamic brotherhood is better."
Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 014.
Narated By 'Amr bin Al-As : The Prophet deputed me to read the Army of Dhat-as-Salasil. I came to him and said, "Who is the most beloved person to you?" He said, "'Aisha." I asked, "Among the men?" He said, "Her father." I said, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar bin Al-Khattab." He then named other men.

volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 020.
Narated By Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya : I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person.
Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 022.
Narated By Abu Said : The Prophet said, "Do not abuse my companions for if any one of you spent gold equal to Uhud (in Allah's Cause) it would not be equal to a Mud or even a half Mud spent by one of them."

Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 024.
Narated By Anas bin Malik : The Prophet once climbed the mountain of Uhud with Abu Bakr, 'Umar and 'Uthman. The mountain shook with them. The Prophet said (to the mountain), "Be firm, O Uhud! For on you there are no more than a Prophet, a Siddiq and two martyrs.
Sunnie Muslim Minhaj Ahl a Sunah wal Jamaaha Selaf Saalih

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Nov 30 06 5:22 PM

salam ala manie tabhal houda salam aleikoekoem



Upholding the Opinion that
Imam Abu Hanifah was One of the Tabi’een
taken from Al-Imam al-A’zam Abu Hanifah al-Mutakallim
by Dr. Dr. ‘Inayatullah Iblagh al-Afghanistani
2nd edition, with supervision of Dr. Muhammad Ali Mahjub


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Some counted his teachers as four thousand within the ranks of the Tabi’een. Among them Hadrat al-Laith ibn Sa’d and Hadrat Malik ibn Anas, the Imam of Dar al-Hijra as mentioned by Daraqutni (al-Khairat al-Hisan, 23).

The author of al-Khairat al-Hisan collected information from books of biographies and cited the names of the Sahaba whom it is reported that the Imam has transmitted ahadith from. He counted them as sixteen of the Sahaba. They are:

Hadrat Anas ibn Malik
Hadrat Abdullah ibn Anis al-Juhani
Hadrat Abdullah ibn al-Harith ibn Juz’ al-Zabidi
Hadrat Jabir ibn Abdullah
Hadrat Abdullah ibn Abi Awfa
Hadrat Wa’ila ibn al-Asqa’
Hadrat Ma'qal ibn Yasar
Hadrat Abu Tufail ‘Amir ibn Wa’ila
Hadrat ‘A'isha bint Hajrad
Hadrat Sahl ibn Sa’d
Hadrat al-Tha’ib ibn Khallad ibn Suwaid
Hadrat al-Tha’ib ibn Yazid ibn Sa'id
Hadrat Abdullah ibn Samra
Hadrat Mahmud ibn al-Rabi’
Hadrat Abdullah ibn Ja’far
Hadrat Abu Umama
Many disagreements exist regarding his reporting of Ahadith from some of these Sahaba. His reporting from ‘Anas is supported by most of the biographers. The following are some of the Ahadith believed to be reported by the Imam directly from the Sahaba. Many biographers list them in their books:

First Hadith:
“Seeking of knowledge is an obligation on each and every Muslim.” Reported by Abu Hanifah upon the authority of Anas ibn Malik. Many books of biography mention two chains of transmition for this Hadith.

Arabic transliteration: Talabu al-'ilmi fariDaatun ‘alaa kulli muslim.

Second Hadith:
Abu Hanifah reported upon the authority of [Hadrat] Jabir ibn Abdullah [radiyallahu 'anh], said: “A man from the Ansar came to Nabi Muhammad (sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) and said, ‘O Messenger of Allah! I never was gifted a son and a son was never born to me.’ So he (sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) said, ‘And where are you from the abundance of zikr and istighfar? Allah provides, by them, the children.’” He said, “So, the man used to increase his charity and his asking for forgiveness.” Then Jabir, said “nine sons were born to him.”

Some argued, though, that Jabir died in the year 79 A.H. while Abu Hanifah was born, most probably, in the year 80 A.H., so how can this report be true?

Arabic transliteration: Ja’a rajulun min al-anSar ila al-Nabi—Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam—fa qala lahu, ‘ya rasulallahi ma ruziqtu waladan qaTT wa la wulida li,’ faqala, ‘wa aina anta min kathrat al-istighfar wa al-Sadaqa, yarzuqu Allahu biha al-walad.’ Qal, "fa kana al-Rajul yukthiru min al-Sadaqa wa al-istighfar." Wa qala Jabir—radiya allahu 'anh—"fa wulida lahu tis'atun mina al-dhukur.

Third Hadith:
The Greatest Imam said: “I heard Abdullah ibn Juz’ al-Zabidi, the companion of the Nabi (sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam), saying, ‘Whoever learned the knowledge of religion, Allah will protect him from worries and will provide him with sustenance from where he does not expect.’”

Arabic transliteration: Man tafaqqaha fi al-din kafahu Allahu hammahu wa razaqahu min Haythu la yaHtasib.

Fourth Hadith:
Reported from Abu Hanifah, said: “I heard Abdullah ibn Abi Awfa saying, ‘I heard the Nabi (sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) saying, ‘Whoever built a mosque, even if it be like a nest of a sand-grouse, Allah will build him a house in Paradise.’’”

Arabic transliteration: Man bana lillahi baitan wa law ka mafHaSi qaTa, bana Allahu lahu baitan fi al-janna.

Fifth Hadith:
Reported from Abu Hanifah, said: “I was born in the year eighty, and Abdullah ibn ‘Anis came to Kufa in the year ninety-four [Hijrah], and I heard from him while I was fourteen years old. I heard him saying, ‘Your loving the thing causes blindness and deafness.’”

Arabic transliteration: Wulidtu sanata thamanin, wa qadima Abdullah ibn Anis al-Kufa sanata arba'in wa tis'in, wa sami'tu minhu wa ana ibnu arba'a 'ashrata sana. Sami'tuhu yaqul, ‘Hubbuka al-shay’a yu'mi wa yuSimm’.

Sixth Hadith:
Reported by Abu Hanifah, said: I heard Wa’ila ibn al-Asqa' saying, “I heard the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) saying, ‘Do not display your rejoicing at your brother[’s misfortune], so that Allah might remedy him and inflict it upon you.’”

Arabic transliteration: La tuZhiranna shamatataka li akhika fa yu'afiahu Allahu wa yabtalika.

Seventh Hadith:
Reported from Abu Hanifah, said: “Wa’ila ibn al-Asqa' told me, from the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam), said, ‘Leave what causes you doubt and head towards what does not cause you doubt.’”

Arabic transliteration: Da' maa yureeibuka ilaa maa laa ureebuk.

(al-Manaqib, al-Muwaffaq al-Makki, Vol. 1, 27; al-Manaqib, al-Kurdari, Vol. 1, 5)

And from what is agreed upon among many of the authors is that the Imam saw Anas ibn Malik. [Even] al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, despite his advocacy of a negative image for the Imam, does support the fact of his seeing of Anas ibn Malik with his saying, “Abu Hanifah saw Anas ibn Malik and heard from 'Ata’ ibn Abi Rabah.” (Tarikh Baghdad, Vol. 13, 324)

Ibn 'Abd al-Barr mentions in his Jami' Bayan al-'Ilm [Vol. 1, 35], after he mentioned, alongside its sanad, a piece of news which Imam Abu Hanifah heard from Abdullah ibn al-Harith ibn al-Juz’, the Sahabi, "Ibn Sa'd, author of al-Waqidi, mentioned that Abu Hanifah saw Anas ibn Malik and Abdullah ibn al-Harith ibn al-Juz’." Counting on this, Ibn al-Juz’ is considered to have died late, and in priority, that Abu Hanifah saw Abdullah ibn Abi Awfa since he was Kufi with regards to his residence and place of death.

Furthermore, Abu Nu'aim Esfahani mentioned among the Sahaba, whom Abu Hanifah saw, Anas, Abdullah ibn al-Harith, and Ibn Abi Awfa. The same is reported by Sibt ibn al-Jawzi upon the authority of Dhakir ibn Kamil from Abu 'Ali al-Haddad from his book, al-Intisar wa’l-Tarjih. This, considering the birth date of Abu Hanifah in the year 80 A.H., but if his birth date was in the year 61 A.H., or in the year 70 A.H., as in the reports of Ibn Zawad and Ibn Hayyan, the possibility of his seeing of the Sahaba would be bigger. Abu al-Qasim ibn Abi al-'Awam expanded on clarifying who was comtemporary of him relying on the first report in his book Fazail Abi Hanifah wa Ashabih (The Virtues of Abu Hanifah and His Followers).

Among what was altered by means of tampering in [the process of] copying what was mentioned is that Daraqutni was asked about Abu Hanifah’s hearing from Anas, is it considered correct? He said “la wa la ru’ytuh” (No, neither his seening). But the original statement is “la illa ru’yatuh” (No, except his seeing). As an evidence on this is what Suyuti mentioned in the beginning of his book Tabiyd al-Sahifa with his saying “Hamza al-Sahmi said, ‘I heard Daraqutni saying Abu Hanifah did not meet any of the Sahaba except that he saw Anas with his eyes but did not hear from him.’” And from the ones who professed his seeing Anas are: Ibn Sa'd, al-Daraqutni, Abu Nu'aim al-Asfahani, Ibn 'Abd al-Barr, al-Khatib [al-Baghdadi], Ibn al-Jawzi, al-Sam'ani, 'Abd al-Ghani al-Maqdisi, Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, Fazl Allah al-Turishty, Nawawi, Yafi'i, Dhahabi, Zain al-Din al-'Iraqi, al-Wali al-'Iraqi, Ibn al-Wazir, al-Badr al-'Ayni, Ibn Hajar [al-'Asqalani], Shihab al-Din al-Qastalani, Suyuti, and Ibn Hajar al-Makki, among others. (Ta’nib al-Khatib fi ma Saqahu fi al-Imam Abi Hanifah min al-Akadhib, Kawthari, 15)



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References:
al-Haytami, al-Khairat al-Hisan. For al-'Allama, Mufti al-Hijaz Ibn Hajar (d.943 A.H.).
Manaqib al-Imam Abi Hanifah. For Abu al-Mu’ayyid al-Muwaffaq al-Makki (d.568).
Manaqib Abi Hanifah. For Ibn al-Bazzaz al-Kurdari, author of Fatawi al-Bazzaziyya (d. 827).
al-Durr al-Munazzam fi Manaqib al-Imam al-A'zam: a manuscript kept in the library of al-Azhar al-Sharif (#238). For Noah Afandi (d. 1070, Cairo).
al-'Uqud al-Jiman fi Manaqib Abi Hanifah al-Nu'man: also a manuscript in al-Azhar. For al-Salih al-Dimashqi.
Original article supplied courtesy Hani Alkhatib
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"Anyone who believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak with goodness, or otherwise hold his peace." [Saheeh Muslim]
Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 009.
Narated By Aiyub : The Prophet said, "If I were to take a Khalil, I would have taken him (i.e. Abu Bakr) as a Khalil, but the Islamic brotherhood is better."
Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 014.
Narated By 'Amr bin Al-As : The Prophet deputed me to read the Army of Dhat-as-Salasil. I came to him and said, "Who is the most beloved person to you?" He said, "'Aisha." I asked, "Among the men?" He said, "Her father." I said, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar bin Al-Khattab." He then named other men.

volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 020.
Narated By Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya : I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person.
Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 022.
Narated By Abu Said : The Prophet said, "Do not abuse my companions for if any one of you spent gold equal to Uhud (in Allah's Cause) it would not be equal to a Mud or even a half Mud spent by one of them."

Volumn 005, Book 057, Hadith Number 024.
Narated By Anas bin Malik : The Prophet once climbed the mountain of Uhud with Abu Bakr, 'Umar and 'Uthman. The mountain shook with them. The Prophet said (to the mountain), "Be firm, O Uhud! For on you there are no more than a Prophet, a Siddiq and two martyrs.
Sunnie Muslim Minhaj Ahl a Sunah wal Jamaaha Selaf Saalih

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Nov 30 06 10:13 PM

salam brother
i appreciate your love for ibn taymyya but you have to remember that loving someone doesn't make him the best, you see children saying : my father is the best father in the world !! but this doesen't necessarily reflect the truth, it's from a subjective point of view clouded by emotions even if the emotions are sincere.
so if you want to discuss the rank of ibn taymyya you need to prove his superiority from his work and from historical facts.

we all know that the bug-bear and the bayt-noire for ibn taymyya was allama ibn al-mutahhir al-hilli rahimahullah who was the main reason behind ibn taymyya writing the book minhaj-sunnah , he felt that hilli is a very big force to be reckoned with and tried to refute him in that book and others.

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Dec 30 06 12:36 PM

Bro Amilcar, for you own safety I suggest you don't drink and drive, and don't drink and jump on internet, drinking and passing baseless accusations don't mix!!!

Worship the Creator and not the creature!!!

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Dec 30 06 12:47 PM

QUOTE (silkworm @ December 30, 2006 12:36 pm)
Bro Amilcar, for you own safety I suggest you don't drink and drive, and don't drink and jump on internet, drinking and passing baseless accusations don't mix!!!

alhamdulillah i'm more sober than you brother.
the last few posts of yours are all accusations based on fairy tales but when i speak i present proof to back what i'm saying.
i haven't seen you giving any proofs whatsoever all i read in your posts is this:
-shia are like the jews....no proof
-shia are not proper muslims...no proof
i think i know who's the one who needs breathalizing

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